sorry, to be so blunt- for a whole day i have watched people here patting themselves on the back- we're a large army, oohh, look out wt, we might do something, well not today or tomorrow, but someday!
maybe, i have to just accept that a lot of jw's who are exiting the kh by the back door will never find a backbone to stand up to mummy and elder daddy.. jw's have a learned ability to see themselves in a better light than everyone else sees them.
ask a jw, if they are a charitable religion and they would likely all say they are, but when pressed to name a charity they will be unable to do so.
Well I organize a local exJW meetup group every month, I have written to the local paper to denounce the JW's mishandling of pedophiles, and I don't think I am that unique here.
Just because we haven't grabbed torches and pitchforks and marched down to the nearest Kingdom Hall, doesn't mean we're not doing anything.
btw, what have YOU done?
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i just realized i have not seen any posts from one of my favorites here in quite a while.
looks like he hasn't posted in several months.. .
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bttt....
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i just realized i have not seen any posts from one of my favorites here in quite a while.
looks like he hasn't posted in several months.. .
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I just realized I have not seen any posts from one of my favorites here in quite a while. Looks like he hasn't posted in several months.
Anyone know, is he still around?
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we all chewed on this article pretty well when the news first came out about the " overlapping anointed " concept , however we discussed so much on just those 2 paragraphs dealing with the new " generation " theory - that almost the rest of the article was overlooked .
our lurking inactive jw friend on the board sent us a copy of the april 15th.
i think you folks may find this interesting.. on pg.
I seem to recall many years ago an article talking about the word "plan". You know how sometimes they love to just overanalyze some obscure point to death, like is it sanctification or vindication of Jehovah's name, which one it is I don't even know.
But this article claimed that a plan describes something an man might have, saying plan implies there is some uncertainty about its success. A plan of course can fail for various reasons. Whereas Jehovah with all his super powers, when he PURPOSES something to happen, that means it will happen, just the way he intended. This may have been back in that wonderful book, God's Eternal Purpose, now Triumphing because we say it is.
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The last apostafest I went to was in Wisconsin, had a good time. There are lots of us apostates in Minnesota, we don't seem to get together as much these days.
re Little House on the Prairie, the tv show was set in Minnesota, mostly based on the book, On the Banks of Plum Creek, I believe, but they had previously lived in Wisconsin too.
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the way crisis of conscience lays it out, despite their reservations on doctrine, ray franz and ed dunlap would have been more than happy to live out their lives within the jw ranks without causing any disturbance.
ray was contemplating resigning from the gb and living out his life quietly somewhere outside bethel.
ed preferred to remain in bethel due to his advanced age.
You're assuming that the WT leaders were rational people... What are you basing this on?
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leave it to gloria allred to grab the limelight.
she and her client, the ex-porn star, want tiger to apologize to her.
do you think he should?
there are a great many reasons it becomes difficult to "prove" to active jw's that the watchtower society has had an amazing series of crackpot teachings, beliefs and assertions over the years.. first off, the availability of old publications is problematic.
the society has cleverly sucked them out of the libraries of local kingdom halls.
older collectors are often dead or apostate.. ebay can provide steep asking-prices.. but--a few years back, i discovered the availability of reprints in quality self-published form on lulu.com and amazon.. these reprints are beautifully done and easier to read than an old, moth-eaten, mildew-stained yellowy tome from the early era!.
Sorry, the average JW is afraid enough of older JW publications that were printed by the Society, they are never going to seriously look at books that are obviously and clearly reprinted editions from some place called Lulu. Obviously these are tools of apostates, they should be burned on sight.
The only people buying these are exJWs doing research for their own amusement.
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who are they?
tell me about it.
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I'd argue that it's STILL a Pro-JW site. Most people here love JWs and are looking for ways to help them break free from the Watchtower Society.
Yeah, ponder that for a minute.
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i received this email from my dad today.
i have not clicked on the link or responded, nor do i intend to.
i accept that i am not going to change his mind, and i know he is not going to change mine, so i choose not to participate in debate with him in an effort to retain what little relationship i have with him.
For what its worth, his email seems to be much less confrontational and manipulative than many others we've seen posted here. And the information he is presenting is at least somewhat relevant and from a mainstream media source. Usually its more like, "OMG a two-headed baby was born in Albania! The end is so close!!!!"*
You are probably correct though not to make a debate out of it, like you said, enjoy the relationship you have with him, even if its not perfect.
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*no offense to any two-headed Albanians on the board
